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The FeedLand blogroll on Drummer blogs was a snip to set up. Here is mine. Looks very nice imo. I’ve not been blogging via drummer for a year, but Dave says there is a WordPress plugin in the works.

I’ve had my feedland blogroll on my WordPress site in a couple of different ways, via Jan’s plugin on the sidebar and my own script on a page. This is more interesting. Like Frank, I hope I can get the blogroll on it’s own page on my WordPress site. I am also just dumping my whole FeedLand list at the moment. I think I’d want to edit that down for a blog roll, perhaps missing out the more obvious links in favour of folk who I interact with.

I’ve had a blogroll on my site for most of its existence. There seems to be a bit of a resurgence at the moment. Hopefully this will lead to a more open and connected web. Dave’s version expands the concept from a list of links towards a feed reader experience. I am wondering if it is heading towards the way Ton’s feedreader seems to work. As it stands it is a great way to get reference links while writing.

Finally I and enjoying writing this post in Drummer, and am going to post it to my WordPress blog with a script Frank shared.

Published on my Oldschool Drummer blog

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Frank & Aaron I did a little more digging. I could not see any kind info in the Rest API representation for a post. Then I saw:

Posting capability via custom REST API endpoint has been removed due improved Micropub support

from: dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds

At the moment I’d be more than happy to post as a draft and set the kind myself. I suspect that I’d reply using the WordPress editor, like now, rather than Drummer anyway.

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Frank’s technique works. This is my second test.

The possibilities for using Drummer just opened up for me. The script looks as if it is going to open my eyes a bit. I’ve only really scripted posting to WordPress via XML-RPC using AppleScript. I am guess tags and categories could be handles in the same way Frank get the image and inlineImage attributes from items?

This could be delightful.

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Replied to Publish to WordPress with Drummer by Frank Meeuwsen (diggingthedigital.com)
Why not crosspost to your WordPress blog with your Drummer CMS? When you publish a new thought on your Drummer blog, you can also post it on WordPress? I think I have a first version of a script in Drummer that makes this possible. It makes use of the global root object to store sensitive data of yo...

Frank,
This is really exciting. Thanks so much. I am going to try asap.

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I’ve been messing about with Drummer for a while now. I alway enjoy when a new thing opens up a few rabbit holes. Drummer certainly does that.

Blogging in an outline is different. I’ve done a little before with Fargo. Then I mostly thought about using the outliners reorganisation affordances as the main idea. This time I am seeing more possibilities with the micro, one line posts narrating a day’s work. As I am on holiday this week and not busy I’ve managed a bit of this, not so much work as narrating my play. Back to school on Monday, so I’ll be doing less of that.

One rabbit hole than digging out how some things work in Drummer. Mostly by trying failing and trying again after changing one this. Obviously reading the docs would be better.

It is truly fascinating seeing a little of how Drummer is put together. Reading other users experiences and getting a glimpse into Dave’s mind.

The GitHub site, Issues · scripting/drummerSupport has some great questions and answers. The later provided not only by Dave but other folk. This is also a useful place to help in exploring drummer. The requests and problems found give a bit of insight in how other bloggers think and blog.

Amit Gawande produced a great summary post: Getting Started Blogging with Drummer. This clears a lot up and points to some other good information. I’ve tried to write these sorts of notes when on a new path. I often get dragged down by an error and into a confusing maze to fix that. The notes get skipped or bits missed out. Amit’s are exceptionally clear.

Jack Batty has some drummer notes, a lot of the questions have resonated with me.

Thursday’s rabbit hole was getting my drummer blog to appear on my own domain.

And that tunnel lead to some more raspberry pi thoughts. I though I might get river5 running again. This time on a separate pi, using my, slight, new found reverse proxy knowledge to get it going on river.johnj.info. And I did. Unfortunately, it is really slow. I guess because of the old pi. I also failed to install forever, which might make running things with any consistency. I might dig out a newer pi and try again. Hopefully slightly quicker than yesterday & today effort.

I’ve also been reading Testing HTTPS · Issue #78 · scripting/drummerSupport so made some progression that. I’ve added a cert to river.johnj.info, but I’ve not changed the templates in Old School yet.

Meanwhile I’ve been blogging a bit both to my ‘real’ blog and through Drummer. I cankt imagine at the moment giving up WordPress. I like the archives, search(sic), categorisation & tagging too much. I wonder if these features will come to Drummer is some way. One solution for me would be a way to post from Drummer to WordPress in the same way as you can tweet.

Currently I spend more time reading my blog as opposed to writing it. Nearly all via the On This Day page. I find this endlessly fascinating. Partly seeing old thoughts and how they have repeated and morphed. I also love seeming the seasonal changes reflected through my photos and observations.
Apart from being a new place to play and learn I and still seeing, for me, drummer as a possible place to build, pulling and gathering material that could end up here.

This post turned out to a set of rambles rather than coming to a coherent conclusion.

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Scripting News: Sunday, October 10, 2021

Today is the 27th anniversary of this blog. To celebrate, I’m opening up Drummer to the world. I hope you love it as much as I do. ❤️

Dave Winer

Drummer is, as you would imagine a really interesting project. A quite different approach to blogging.

I’ve been lightly beta testing Drummer since 4th September. This is my Drummer blog: John’s tambourine.

I would not like to presume I can understand Drummer well enough to give anything like a complete description. These are some of the features that have interested me so far.

  • Drummer is an outliner, like Dave’s Little Outliner 2 and the Fargo system. You could use it for outlining in all sorts of ways.
  • Drummer can created a blog from an outline at post at the push of a button.
  • Drummer is a scripting system in an outliner.

Each of these elements give you a lot to think about. It has made me think about how I blog, and how I’d like to blog. It is an opinionated system. Coming from one of the internet elders you would expect no less.

If you are interested in blogging, microblogging and the like I’d recommend you have a look at Drummer. Certainly read: About Drummer

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Replied to Drummer has a feature called the glossary … by Aaron DavisAaron Davis (collect.readwriterespond.com)
I love the idea of a glossary for my site. For example, when I say Ben Collins, it would be cool if it would automatically link to his website, similar to how Google+ worked. I sometimes do this at the moment by linking to my own posts. For example, when talking about care as the first principle, I ...

Hi Aaron,

Drummer has a lot of interesting features, I am kicking the tyres a little. When I started this blog I used pivot, a flat file php blogging system. It also had  this sort of feature, although they didn’t call it a glossary. I would think someone could write a WordPress plugin to do the same sort of thing.
A previous outline & blog system from Dave Winer, Fargo, had a post to WordPress feature. I am wondering if this might be possible for Drummer too.

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Bookmarked Tagging, wikis, concordances: tagging in a read-and-write space by Ken Smith (akaKenSmith)
Tagging and its sibling concordance are aimed at pattern work, at reorganizing for new uses. Having the landing page for a key word with its living contexts be a place not just for reading but also for further pattern-making and writing is dynamite.

Just a vague though at the moment:

I’ve always found concordances interesting. I think I’ve a pretty recently unread one on a shelf somewhere. I’d not though of them as another way to dig into a blog. I’ve found a couple of interesting ways to search my blog recently. I wonder if something like the video demo that Ken Smith linked to could be made for WordPress tags?

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Listened Episode 003 – Interview with Ken Smith  from  Andy Sylvester from Thinking About Tools For Thought – Exploring tools and methods to help us think

Episode 3 – Interview with Ken Smith Links from today’s episode: Ken Smith’s bioKen Smith’s Old School blogAdam’s Task (book that Ken mentioned)Instant Outline that Andy Sylvester talked about creating (activism.opml)FargoLittle OutlinerDrummer

Listened to Episode 003 – Interview with Ken Smith.

I’ve read Andy Sylvester on and off for a while. He was a user of Fargo, Dave Winer’s blogging tool which I’ve used, and blogged about. Outliners are interesting, but I’ve mostly used them for blogging and todo lists. Andy is also on micro.blog.

I liked the pace of the podcast, a wee bit slower than many. It is good length too.

Ken Smith was talking about writing & thinkings tools. He started with attitude rather than tools. The idea of slowing down and paying attention to words and sentences. The specificity of someone’s language to connect with their idea. This I did not expect.

Ken mentioned ‘standing searches’ I’ve not heard of this, I am guessing a search for a word or concept that you repeat over time?

Ken then talked about, word, gDocs and outliners. The collaboration using gDocs to build conversation and community.

Ken’s use of outliners was with Dave Winer’s tools. He described moving text, your own and others, putting it beside other text to see what ideas would appear. I’ve only though or used outlines to reorganise my own words. This sounds a lot more thoughtful.

Ken talked about using the beta of Drummer. Again discussing putting pieces text together to see what happens to illustrate and test the text.

The possibilities of pulling together multiple outlines from different folk might be a way for building small(?) temporary communities and civic space around an idea.

I was interested in the bookmarks in Drummer, I spend a fair bit of time reviewing my old posts. And thinking of how I access them. This gave me some more ideas.

It did make me think of the way I review my blog, via my On this Day page, random browsing and searching by month, ignoring the year.

The whole short podcast, which I’ve listened to 3 times, had lots to think about. Ken and Andy were talking about using these tools in a much deeper way than I use them.

I am also playing with TiddlyWiki for planning learning for my class, and thinking about how to gather learning data differently. These ideas should feed in there.

I am certainly going to subscribe to the podcast and read the previous episodes.