Listened: David Winer – Guy Kawasaki
Really good chat. Covering the birth of blogs, rss, podcasting and outliners.
Talking about the idea that apple networking, if better, could have made the web unnecessary:
David Winer: We had to give up the GUI. We went from having all this great user interface standards to the web, which had no user interface standards.
When I started using computers, a mac 475 and system 7 point something I really found the standardised UI a huge benefit.
Guy Kawasaki: …. but it seems like Apple and Spotify and Amazon, they’re now trying to gate-keep podcasting.
I’ve been podcasting since 2005 and really worry that the medium is being commercialised. Dave Winer was more pragmatic.
Interesting too to compare Dave’s podcasting routine with Guy Kawasaki’s extensive editing:
David Winer: I open up my iPhone, I turn on the Voice Memo app, talk for a while, I email that to myself, I upload it to a server, I put it on my blog. Goodbye.
The wee bit of audio was grabbed by Castro.