{"id":8546,"date":"2018-12-08T14:39:16","date_gmt":"2018-12-08T14:39:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/?p=8546"},"modified":"2025-12-06T20:38:39","modified_gmt":"2025-12-06T20:38:39","slug":"gutenberg-thoughts-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/gutenberg-thoughts-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Gutenberg Thoughts 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The new WordPress editor is now official. It comes with a new editor Gutenberg. <a href=\"http:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/tag\/gutenberg\/\">I&#8217;ve tested Gutenberg<\/a> on and off for a while, mostly worrying about iOS in particular iPads. That has improved steadily.<\/p>\n<p>My concern is pupils using <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.glowscotland.org.uk\">Glow Blogs<\/a> will find the new editor more complicated.<\/p>\n<p>I am somewhat relived that pasting from Apple Notes on an iPad works fine in the blocks editor, paragraphs generating new blocks. Adding images above or below a particular block seems a little footery but nothing pupils will not handle <a id=\"fnr1-2018-12-08\" href=\"#fn1-2018-12-08\"><sup>1<\/sup><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Now WordPress 5 is out I need to think about my own use. I don&#8217;t usually write in the web editor, preferring to either cut and paste from a text editor or post via micro.blog or xml-rpc. TextMate has a lovely blogging bundle, and I use drafts and shortcuts on iOS.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve installed WordPress 5 on a couple of other sites, and had a quick play. Posting from TextMate, via xml-rpc put the content in a classic block if Gutenberg is enabled.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve also enabled the classic editor plugin on these sites and this one. The ability to toggle back and forward between editors seems like a good idea, but on the sites I&#8217;ve tried it has mostly failed <a id=\"fnr2-2018-12-08\" href=\"#fn2-2018-12-08\"><sup>2<\/sup><\/a>. This would be a good way to introduce the editor to Glow Blogs users, start with the classic editor, add in the ability to toggle to Gutenberg. I do worry that having two editors will lead to folk having problems or getting confused. I am not looking forward to updating the Glow Blogs help. This is probably a bit in the future as we should wait and see how Gutenberg is going on multi-sites before upgrading.<\/p>\n<p>My other personal worry is that at the moment the indieweb post_kinds plugin is not compatible with Gutenberg. This is compounded by the fact I can&#8217;t update that plugin on this site at the moment. I am presuming that things will get shaken out and improve over the next year or two.<\/p>\n<p>My plan is now to upgrade this blog to WP 5 but use the classic editor, waiting to see how the indieweb plugins evolve. I&#8217;ll continue writing in TextMate, drafts and the like while I keep half an eye on developments.<\/p>\n<div class=\"footnotes\">\n<ol>\n<li><a id=\"fn1-2018-12-08\"><\/a> I was pleasantly surprised watching a pupil happily collapsing meta-boxes to get her e-portfolio tags the other day. I had at some point shown the class how to expand them after they accidentally collapsed them, but not talked about it in any depth. I suspect pupils will adapt to new interfaces easier that I will. <a href=\"#fnr1-2018-12-08\">&#x21a9;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a id=\"fn2-2018-12-08\"><\/a> I will test this a bit more and try to see if it is something I can report. <strong>Update version 1.2 of the classic Editor has fixed this for me<\/strong>.<a href=\"#fnr2-2018-12-08\">&#x21a9;<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The new WordPress editor is now official. It comes with a new editor Gutenberg. 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