{"id":15363,"date":"2021-09-03T19:48:31","date_gmt":"2021-09-03T18:48:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/?p=15363"},"modified":"2021-09-03T19:48:31","modified_gmt":"2021-09-03T18:48:31","slug":"listened-episode-003-interview-with-ken-smith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/listened-episode-003-interview-with-ken-smith\/","title":{"rendered":"Listened: Episode 003 \u2013 Interview with Ken Smith"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"kind-display-text\">Listened<\/span> <a class=\"p-name u-url\" href=\"https:\/\/thinkingabouttoolsforthought.com\/episode-003-interview-with-ken-smith\/\">Episode 003 \u2013 Interview with Ken Smith<\/a>\u00a0 from\u00a0<span class=\"h-card p-author\">\u00a0Andy Sylvester <\/span> from <em><span class=\"p-publication\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thinkingabouttoolsforthought.com\/\">Thinking About Tools For Thought &#8211; Exploring tools and methods to help us think<\/a><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"e-summary\"><p>Episode 3 \u2013 Interview with Ken Smith Links from today\u2019s episode: Ken Smith\u2019s bioKen Smith\u2019s Old School blogAdam\u2019s Task (book that Ken mentioned)Instant Outline that Andy Sylvester talked about creating (activism.opml)FargoLittle OutlinerDrummer<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Listened to <a href=\"https:\/\/thinkingabouttoolsforthought.com\/episode-003-interview-with-ken-smith\/\">Episode 003 \u2013 Interview with Ken Smith<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve read <a href=\"http:\/\/andysylvester.com\">Andy Sylvester<\/a> on and off for a while. He was a user of <a href=\"http:\/\/fargo.io\">Fargo<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/davewiner.com\">Dave Winer<\/a>\u2019s blogging tool which I\u2019ve used, and <a href=\"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/tag\/fargo\/\">blogged about<\/a>. Outliners are interesting, but I\u2019ve mostly used them for blogging and todo lists. Andy is also on micro.blog.<\/p>\n<p>I liked the pace of the podcast, a wee bit slower than many. It is good length too.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/clas.iusb.edu\/english\/faculty\/smith.html\">Ken Smith<\/a> was talking about writing &amp; thinkings tools. He started with attitude rather than tools. The idea of <strong>slowing down<\/strong> and <strong>paying attention<\/strong> to words and sentences. The specificity of someone\u2019s language to connect with their idea. This I did not expect.<\/p>\n<p>Ken mentioned \u2018standing searches\u2019 I\u2019ve not heard of this, I am guessing a search for a word or concept that you repeat over time?<\/p>\n<p>Ken then talked about, word, gDocs and outliners. The collaboration using gDocs to build conversation and community.<\/p>\n<p>Ken\u2019s use of outliners was with Dave Winer\u2019s tools. He described moving text, your own and others, putting it beside other text to see what ideas would appear. I\u2019ve only though or used outlines to reorganise my own words. This sounds a lot more thoughtful.<\/p>\n<p>Ken talked about using the beta of <a href=\"http:\/\/scripting.com\/2021\/04\/03\/133021.html?title=theMakingOfDrummer\">Drummer<\/a>. Again discussing putting pieces text together to see what happens to illustrate and test the text.<\/p>\n<p>The possibilities of pulling together multiple outlines from different folk might be a way for building small(?) temporary communities and civic space around an idea.<\/p>\n<p>I was interested in the bookmarks in Drummer, I spend a fair bit of time reviewing my old posts. And thinking of how I access them. This gave me some more ideas.<\/p>\n<p>It did make me think of the way I review my blog, via my On this Day page, <a href=\"http:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/?random\">random<\/a> browsing and <a href=\"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/portfolio\/first-of-year\/\">searching by month<\/a>, ignoring the year.<\/p>\n<p>The whole short podcast, which I\u2019ve listened to 3 times, had lots to think about. Ken and Andy were talking about using these tools in a much deeper way than I use them.<\/p>\n<p>I am also playing with TiddlyWiki for planning learning for my class, and thinking about how to gather <a href=\"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/doing-data-differently-virtual-launch\/\">learning data differently<\/a>. These ideas should feed in there.<\/p>\n<p>I am certainly going to subscribe to the podcast and read the previous episodes.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Listened Episode 003 \u2013 Interview with Ken Smith\u00a0 from\u00a0\u00a0Andy Sylvester from Thinking About Tools For Thought &#8211; Exploring tools and methods to help us think Episode 3 \u2013 Interview with Ken Smith Links from today\u2019s episode: Ken Smith\u2019s bioKen Smith\u2019s Old School blogAdam\u2019s Task (book that Ken mentioned)Instant Outline that Andy Sylvester talked about creating [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"mf2_syndication":[],"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"webmentions_disabled_pings":false,"webmentions_disabled":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1075],"tags":[1401,1402,441,1403],"post_format":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-15363","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-reaction","7":"tag-andy-sylvester","8":"tag-drummer","9":"tag-fargo","10":"tag-outliners","11":"kind-listen","13":"h-entry","14":"hentry","15":"post-kind"},"better_featured_image":null,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p57zFQ-3ZN","jetpack_likes_enabled":false,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"kind":false,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15363","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15363"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15363\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15366,"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15363\/revisions\/15366"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15363"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15363"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15363"},{"taxonomy":"post_format","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/johnjohnston.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/post_format?post=15363"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}