Hi William, Thanks nice concise history of x-talks. I have the same feelings for HC & SuperCard as yourself. Loved them for years. Still read the SC mailing list. I have followed the Metacard, Revolution, Livecode progress from a distance. Occasionally running them when the price was right for me. Unfortunately that was not too often. The licensing seemed quite confusing last time I looked. The secondary schools in North Lanarkshire, where I was a primary teacher, did use Livecode for a while as a teaching too.